Almost earshot distance from Googleplex and NASA’s Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, the man in charge of information innovation at the Defense Advance Research Projects implored technology researchers to actually make things and publish their failures.

At the Computer History Museum this week, Dan Kaufman discussed the potential and pitfalls of crowdsourcing, the distinction between invention and innovation, and how to stay ahead while businesses are stockpiling intellectual property in preparation for patent wars.

“Everything we do at DARPA moves the impossible to improbable to inevitable,” said Kaufman. “What if you didn’t have to use bombs and instead we gave the military the right tools.”

Following his converations with New York Times science writer John Markoff, Kaufman sat down with me for this interview DARPA Director Calls for Change in the Tech Industry.

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